{"id":23477,"date":"2017-03-24T03:38:45","date_gmt":"2017-03-24T10:38:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.jewishindependent.ca\/?p=23477"},"modified":"2017-03-23T21:57:08","modified_gmt":"2017-03-24T04:57:08","slug":"settlement-versus-ariel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.jewishindependent.ca\/index.php\/2017\/03\/24\/settlement-versus-ariel\/","title":{"rendered":"\u201cSettlement\u201d versus \u201cAriel\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Avi Zimmerman chose for Talk17 a format that would allow a speaker to share their stories and views uninterrupted. (<em>photo from Avi Zimmerman)<\/em><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>There is a range of strong opinions when it comes to Jewish community development east of the Green Line. Many around the world refer to these Israeli communities as \u201csettlements.\u201d But, to Avi Zimmerman of the Ariel Foundation and many Israelis, Ariel is something else.<\/p>\n<p>Zimmerman was born and raised in West Orange, N.J. He made aliyah in 1995 and served in the Israel Defence Forces. After earning a degree in occupational therapy at the Hebrew University and then working in the field for four years, he and his wife decided to move to Ariel. There, Zimmerman started up an aliyah program.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI was then asked to run the Ariel Foundation, which is what I\u2019ve been doing for the last eight years or so,\u201d Zimmerman told the <em>Independent.<\/em> \u201cThe foundation is not only for raising funds for city projects, it also provides accurate information about the city of Ariel to an international public.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Ariel will celebrate its 40th anniversary in 2018. Established on Aug. 17, 1978, with 40 families, it is now a city of close to 20,000 residents, plus an additional 15,000 students studying at Ariel University.<\/p>\n<p>Geographically, Ariel is east of Tel Aviv, past the Green Line. Given what he \u2013 and others \u2013 see as misinformation being spread about Jewish communities east of the Green Line, Zimmerman decided to share stories from the people actually living in the area and how local people feel about various issues.<\/p>\n<p>To do this, Zimmerman copied a format that has worked very well for TED Talks on YouTube, and created Talk17.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOur lives are not lived through a conflict lens, fortunately, nor are those of our Palestinian neighbours,\u201d he explained. \u201cThose elements possibly do exist. It\u2019s not that they don\u2019t exist. But, they are not the primary theme of the way life is lived here.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf people are interested in what goes on here, I think it\u2019s only fair to the international community to provide more accurate information \u2013 not in terms of stats or facts, although that\u2019s part of it \u2026 [but] beyond that, in terms of the voices from the region.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe concept is, instead of talking about us in a well-intentioned yet disenfranchising way, just listen to us and hear what we have to say.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Zimmerman chose the TED Talk format because it is not confrontational, as are debates and as can be panel discussions. The format allows a presenter to tell their whole story without interruption.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe want to give authentic voices an opportunity and a fair platform, so there\u2019s no debate, no winners and losers, no questions and answers,\u201d he explained. \u201cThere\u2019s no objective right or wrong to that. It\u2019s authentic\u2026. I think, ultimately, people are interested in the breadth and depth of the story.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere are a lot of people who like to live in what they are calling echo chambers &#8230; in a world where everybody says what they like to hear, and they de-friend you if you say something else. A lot of the world is just moving in that direction. But they are not our target audience. If you already know everything, we can\u2019t convince you otherwise. You\u2019re going to turn off the video when you hear something you don\u2019t like and that will be the end of it. My target audience is authentic people. They actually care and are willing to listen to new ideas they\u2019re not familiar with.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_23456\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-23456\" style=\"width: 600px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-23456\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jewishindependent.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/mar-24-israel.24.Talk17-Screen-shot-2017-03-15-at-3.54.48-PM.png\" alt=\"image - The crowdfunding page clearly lays out the principles behind Talk17\" width=\"600\" height=\"783\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.jewishindependent.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/mar-24-israel.24.Talk17-Screen-shot-2017-03-15-at-3.54.48-PM.png 600w, https:\/\/www.jewishindependent.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/mar-24-israel.24.Talk17-Screen-shot-2017-03-15-at-3.54.48-PM-230x300.png 230w, https:\/\/www.jewishindependent.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/mar-24-israel.24.Talk17-Screen-shot-2017-03-15-at-3.54.48-PM-115x150.png 115w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-23456\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The crowdfunding page clearly lays out the principles behind Talk17. <em>(image from <a href=\"http:\/\/generosity.com\/community-fundraising\/talk17-change-the-israel-conversation--2\" target=\"_blank\">generosity.com<\/a>)<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>While an 18-minute video is hard for some people to get through, Zimmerman has been finding that, organically, Talk17 has been successful by having speakers who are on the frontlines of change-making. He gave as an example an exchange he\u2019d had just before his interview with the <em>Jewish Independent<\/em> \u2013 an artist had happened upon Talk17\u2019s Facebook page and was very excited about the concept. The artist runs an organization that uses the arts as a form of intercultural dialogue and they and Zimmerman are now working on plans for an arts-themed program, including an exhibition, at the end of April.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt was just a preliminary conversation today,\u201d said Zimmerman. \u201cBut, the thing is, these are the kinds of people who can help us open new doors.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Since starting Talk17, 90% of the views, as it happens, have been from Arab-speaking, self-identified Palestinians, said Zimmerman. \u201cWe\u2019re reaching across the aisle,\u201d he said. \u201cThere\u2019s something very real to this.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>While Palestinians, Israelis and Canadians are open to listening to talks in languages other than English, Zimmerman has found that Americans are less willing to do so. Because of this, he has decided to stick with English for Talk17.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe automatically limit ourselves to English-speakers,\u201d he said. \u201cThey don\u2019t have to be native English-speakers. We try to get a fair balance of Arab and Palestinian voices among the Jewish and Israeli voices. We try to get a fair balance of women and men.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe try to find people that have a unique story &#8230; so, it\u2019s not just a personal story, but there\u2019s a new concept to it. If you follow the first videos we\u2019ve been launching, you\u2019ll see each story is very different. We\u2019re also trying to work on themes, events with themes.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He said an upcoming theme will be diplomatic options for the future. \u201cFor 50 years,\u201d he said, \u201cwe\u2019ve heard about the two-state solution, we\u2019ve heard about it since the 1947 Partition Plan. But, the point is, it\u2019s not going anywhere. So, people are saying that, if not that, then what? So, we want to examine that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Zimmerman hopes that, by the end of the process, he will have been able to create a video archive that people can access to deepen and broaden the conversation about the region, so they can realize there is more to the story than they thought from just reading a short article or hearing a news clip.<\/p>\n<p>Zimmerman also hopes that, in the future, visitors to Israel will be more willing to venture out of Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, and will come visit Ariel to experience firsthand the beauty of the region and its people.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe all need to remember that, regardless of the terms of the deal that one day will hopefully be reached between Israel and the Palestinians, and regardless of where the lines will be drawn, Jews and Arabs will be neighbours forever,\u201d said Zimmerman. \u201cWith that in mind, we need to figure out how to work with them directly, and we\u2019d appreciate it if the world would allow us to do so, by appreciating the dynamics between us &#8230; by having this window into our interactions.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHowever, the objective of Talk17 is not for me to have a better relationship with my Palestinian neighbour. That\u2019s an added value &#8230; something we do anyway. We don\u2019t need Talk17 for me to meet with my friend on Wednesday. We need Talk17 for the relationship between the Israelis and the international community, and the Palestinians and the international community.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In addition to the Talk17 YouTube channel, there is a crowdfunding effort in progress for the talks, at <a href=\"http:\/\/generosity.com\/community-fundraising\/talk17-change-the-israel-conversation--2\" target=\"_blank\">generosity.com\/community-fundraising\/talk17-change-the-israel-conversation&#8211;2<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rebeca Kuropatwa<\/strong> <em>is a Winnipeg freelance writer.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Avi Zimmerman chose for Talk17 a format that would allow a speaker to share their stories and views uninterrupted. 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